Some Details About WU!!!

Joe had a comment on my previous post on Worship Underground and he asked some good questions. Here is his quote...

Sounds great! What goes on in Worship Underground?

Do you sing praises to God? Do you give testimonies? Do you encourage giving an offering to God as an act of worship? Do you tell them about Jesus? Do people have an opportunity to sing solos, or in groups? Are there any who play instruments? Do they get a chance to share prayer needs?

Do you send missionaries out to other countries to tell them about Jesus and to meet their physical needs as well?

Do guest speakers come and share spiritual truth with them?

Who is welcome in the Worship Underground? Are there people of all ages there? Are there people of different races?

If an attender of Worship Underground has a life-need, how do you try to meet that need?

Does the Holy Spirit lead you to plan your meetings in advance?

It sounds like a grand idea. I would really like to know some particulars. We might try it here.

Is there a manual we could follow?

10:12 AM


Good questions.. The answer is not that easy. There is not one set way to do it but we have had some unspoken guidelines. Keep it simple. The format we have used in the past. Someone will open with prayer and maybe read a passage of scripture or a short word just for focus. Then with an acoustic guitar or accapella we will just sing as a body of believers. It has not really been a time of ministry like us praying for each other or anything but God has shown up and ministered to us. Worship underground is not a church, nor does it exist to form one, or minister to one another or the needs of the community(although this may happen). I know this sounds selfish, but that's what the church is for. The church does a good job of this already, Worship Underground is for God. We gather so many times and we focus on the lost or the sick or the preacher giving us some type of instruction from the word. Worship Underground is a time that people forget about their problems and the cares of this world and just worship and commune with their father. All ages have shown but unfortunately the older generation has been very sparse I think the oldest has been late forties. All races has always been welcomed, the very first one we had we was multi cultural...it was beautiful.
Yes we normally plan them in advance so people can make time, but the first few I was involved kind of happened out of just beginning to praise and the next thing we knew God showed and we just found ourselves in his presence. It was the search for that atmosphere that sparked my desire back when I lived in Augusta, GA.

A Manuel sounds like a great ideal. It would take some time though. Maybe it is time. Thanks Joe

Do feelings matter?

I think they do! I know we walk by faith, but my feelings must matter if Jesus spent so much time telling me how to control them.

Just a thought. I hear so many people say what you feel is not important, or does not matter. That is easy for a person who is not very emotional...But I am!!! So what do I do? I must learn what Jesus would do with my emotions if he had them. Control some try to erase others and stir up some others. WOW!!!!

Origin of "Underground"

Joe asked me to explain the underground thing and I think that is a great ideal. Well about 4 years ago God gave me an ideal to have a organic grass roots kind of worship time in a "non churchee" way. My first ideal was to do it on a fri night at the church I was the worship leader at then. I talked to my pastor about it and he loved it.... But, he did not really get what I meant, he was not on the level I was. I do not say level because my level was higher or better but just a different level.
He wanted to have it but he wanted to call it "Friday night Fire" well I managed to hold down my vomit and get out of not doing it at all. That was my Joseph moment and basically he did not understand my dream. Well anyway I then knew I needed a name...one that was worthy of my ideal (or God's ideal).

I thought about it and my reflection brought me to a time when I was a pastor of the uths! I had an incredible "lock in" it was where I took all there Bibles and got the police to come and tell them that there had been a change of law from the state of GA stating that there was to be no more church. It worked!! These kids hit their knees. I told them we may have to go back to the days of the early Christians. This was where I got the ideal Underground. The first worshipers (when the church grew very fast and was the most healthy) had to worship in what was called catacombs. These were underground Roman tombs. This was not something that was showey, or looked anything like the polished performances that we have today called "church". This was very organic and real.. grassroots. This is one of the things responsible for the gospel spreading so fast. When I was looking for a name for my "event of a different color", I felt like God lead me to this name "Worship Underground". It was not until I got to Yakima WA that I was able to implement that event and that name.

This is where Worship Underground came from and I hope it continues to grow not because I started it, but because "HE" started it long ago and for what it really is... worship at the spring... the source... where we drink from. Just plain worship. Pastor Kris

Worship Underground

I am so proud and excited at the same time. Yakima worship underground is still going on, they had their first house meeting tonight. This is something we started over a year ago. I'm gone... and they still are going strong. This is a wonderful thing. This shows it was bigger than me. I am thinking and planning to start a Bremen cell of Worship Underground. God gave me the ideal about 3 1/2 years ago and I am pumped to see it happening. Who knows what God's plan is. West coast East coast!!!! Worship underground coming to a city near you. God is so awesome.

My Boss

My new job is very fast!!! We serve fast food, the good for you kind. Clean friendly fast courteous are just a few adjective to describe us. My boss is a great Christian and a great leader. He is a great businessman, with influence in the city and his church. He is an elder at his church, he and I had a great conversation today and I want to have him as a mentor (he does not know it yet!!). He took a store (his second one in 18 years) from 276th in the state to number 4 in the state in sales. That only happens with great leadership and a blessing from God. He is a member of the Christian businessmen association and gives back tons to the community. I am pursing Chick-fil-A as a career, I have prayed about it and I feel God is giving me a way and putting people in my life so I can make a difference for the kingdom of God.

This will not set right with a lot of religious people (yes I am talking to you...pharicee(sp?), is that your face turning red?) I think one of the best ways to impact people that are not a Christian is.... yes that right you guessed it....spend time with them!!! What do we have for them Charlie!!!! Please excuse my sarcasm but I have been around long enough to know when you do something different you will not be understood by people. I have dreams... big ones, and Chick-Fil- A is one of them.. and will help me to achieve the rest of them.

This is my tent making job right now and may be for a while to come (I hope). Pray for me, I want to be the best at my job right now it is learning to make all the food. Next it will be dealing with the people, and then all the business and then the process of going through the necessary interviews to OWN MY OWN RESTAURANT. My boss is one of the best in the country (currently number 15) and he and I have found a great common ground....People. You see... Having a good restaurant is not so much about hot fresh food served fast and just the way they ordered it for a great price...as it is about people!!!! And I love people.

Well I have taken up enough of your time. What are you doing tomorrow? When the day is done are you going to feel like you did something worth while? I hope you do. When you look at things like that, it will change the way you make a chicken sandwich. Kris

Email

Lots of changes lately. FYI.... I will not be checking my krisbarger@charterinternet email account anymore. Please pass this along. I will from now on use only my .mac email account. Later... real busy here in GA. I'm off to get some breakfast change my phone number and some other stuff.

Had a great day at Chick-Fil-A yesterday.

Had to prostitute this it is great LOL

Read the WHOLE thing don't skip the disclaimer at the end. Let me know what you think too. Dan Kimball is awesome.

I now have my web access

Give me a day or two to get some travel pics up and stuff got a lot of kool things going on so ill post soon it is almost midnight here in EST so im turning in. later.....

There's No Place Like Home

We arrived last night at 1:00AM EST. Pictures of some trip stuff to come. Kris

109468

That was my code to the church security system. I will miss that place I already do. There was a old song by a group called Degarmo & Key I can't remember the title but here are the words...

Seasons change days go by
People come and people go
Though our paths lead us apart
They will meet one day I know
For I owe you so much dear friend
For all those treasured times
For you've made me a richer man
Having had you in my life...

I sang this at my high school graduation.

I sing it now in my head while I drive. I hold back the tears (cuz im in the breakfast foyer at the Ameri-Suites) while I type this. I can't express the love that I have. Gary,Eva,Rob,Chris,Selena,Lynn,Matt,Eric&Gina,Dole&Christie,all my baristas at Starbux,and everyone else that helped us and prayed for us and labored with us......I LOVE YOU!!!!

I only wish I could have done more or better. Because time spent for God is not time wasted, even at the most simple of task or the tedious of ventures. Lynde and Josiah say hi. God bless you and yours.

We are in Boise this morn. I will post pictures of why we only got that far in another post. Brake problems 15 miles out of Yakima...tire on fire....you know normal cross country stuff. We started out 5 hours behind.

Love, Kris

A Lugee Hocking savior

I'm setting here in starbux and want to say... that I love Jesus in a major way....

LOL.

Why do you think Jesus spat in the dirt and made mudd. He was God he did not have to do that. I'm glad he did don't get me wrong, I just think it was funny and kool and disturbing (to some people, but not to me) that the God-Man sent to save the world (or at least the elect) made mudd with spit. I love it....what if it was done today? Do you think the church would accept it. They didn't then! Kris

Not Left Yet

I got my bike up in my truck (said yoda tuff it was) But I cowboy'ed ???? up and did it. So hold the applause till the end please. Also, I sold my couch and love seat, and my wife just bought a leather sectional sp??. Moving is fun when you get new stuff.



I'm at starbux (that is the way they spell it on their Hear Music cd files) like I am all the time. The 56th street Starbucks is the best in all the world. I have found free wifi here, the store across the street does not have their linksys router WEP'ed so I open up my powerbook and boom, wham, pop, zoewe, thud, crack, whoop there it is free internet.

Moving Pics

I will be posting pics of my move, here is the truck I'll be moving in. After shots (full) will be posted also. I have a good route picked out. I'll be posting that route soon. But for now just pics of the rig. I'll try to find some wifi heading across the country. This should be exciting. Well I have to start manhandleing furniture. Kris

Awesome Post

This guy (Steve) is really creative. He has a good blog to follow if you like to keep up with people and their stuff. This is one of the funniest things I have read lately.

I'm irregular

A irregular blogger....lol I am packing . I hate moving. I have to finish packing and drive our stuff across the country. I would much rather blog and set here (at Starbucks) all day long, but I must go see my wife and new son (Josiah). They are in Bremen waiting on me.

Well I'm leading our home group tonight. The book we are reading is The Unquenchable Worshiper by Matt Redman Great book!!!!

I love this Post

I know I am prostituting another person's blog, but I just can't help it, I love what he says. I have to say it makes me wish I worked at a place like that. Maybe I will?????

Tony had a cool insight when he read this post from Seth.

Bremen, GA

Everyone I know asks me where we are moving. I am going to post some info on Bremen.
First of all, it is a tiny city about 45 min from Atlanta which is just far enough away. Atlanta is huge it ranks pretty high when it comes to big cities in the US. It is the cultural center of the south, in my opinion. You can find anything you want and some things you would never want. Well that may answer some questions you may have.

We Have Gone Too Far

America's obsession with looks has gone too far. Don't get me wrong I enjoy beautiful people, but I'll just get right to the point. The other night I was surfing the TV and found this show called America's Next Top Model. I watched for a little while and I was really ticked..... They sent a girl home. Well, first of all she was considered full sized which in street terms means that she actually had curves and a figure!!! But the thing that really killed her was that she would not pose nude!! This wasn't like playboy nude, but nude with that paint stuff on your body that makes you look like you kind of have clothes on (but really she would have still been nude). She was from Atlanta and said she did not want her kids to see her like that and she had a husband and basically it was against her morals. Way to go girl, stand up for what you believe. But that got her sent home. I was mad. I don't know weather or not this was a new episode, or in syndication, or what but I turned it off thinking that something was wrong. Forgive me for being so blunt but this is my blog. What do you think?

When One Bleeds We All Bleed!!

Look familiar? 9-11/7-7

Least we Forget. Pray

This may be coming!

The phone is labeled the E790:

It will be like a iPod shuffle in function. Very kool, but it may be a while before it shows up on the market. I don't know about you but I would much rather have a few songs on my phone than a lousy camera. It should sync with iTunes and have sound as good as a full size iPod.

This is from a rumor site that got leaked from a website in Israel. (Link in title)